Taste of Place Episode 10

A Pepper Party

In this episode of Taste of Place, Anna chats with:

  • Jonathan Nunn, a food and city writer based in London, and the founder and co-editor of Vittles.

  • Chloe-Rose Crabtree, a chef, writer and co-founder of Sourced.

  • Jenny Lau, a community organizer, writer, and gentle food activist and founder of Celestial Peach.

  • Pam Brunton, a chef and co-owner of Inver Restaurant in Scotland on Loch Fyne.

  • Tomas Heale, chef and owner of a London-based vegan restaurant, Naïfs.

  • Emma Hughes, a journalist and novelist.

  • Fiona Mowlem, mother to Taste of Place host, Dr. Anna Sulan Masing.

Here are some highlights:

A Pepper Party

  • Anna introduces the episode’s festivities by explaining that she is hosting her very own Gawai Batu, or Gawai Whetstone celebrating the release of Taste of Place.

  • Jonathan describes the nostalgic dish he brought to the celebration, a Goan dish called Xacuti.

  • Chloe presents the twist on crème brûlée cookies that she brought, made with pepper and cardamom instead of vanilla.

  • Jenny talks about the Cantonese black pepper beef and its Western-Cantonese fusion origin story.

  • Emma describes the Scottish-rooted dessert she brought made of strawberries, black pepper, basil and balsamic vinegar.

  • Tomas talks about the summery salads he made for the party made of Urbinati melon, tomatoes, cucumber—and of course, black pepper.


Growing Pepper in Sarawak

  • Anna’s mother, Fiona, recounts her time living in Sarawak in the late 20th century and how pepper was grown back then.

A Trip Down Memory Lane

  • Each guest shares their stories about when and how they learned where pepper comes from and how it’s grown.

  • The guests reminisce about their nostalgic memories connected to pepper.

  • Anna and the guests discuss the unwritten rules of which kinds of peppers are used in different dishes and the connotations each kind of pepper carries.

  • The guests talk about how heritage and culture play into food memories and learning how to cook.

Re-seeing History

  • Anna concludes the episode by discussing how using something as small as pepper as a tool for examining nostalgia and the past, can help us begin to re-see history, even if it is our own personal history.

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